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canada. and top news is about the latest shoe to drop in the russia probe. his former lawyer's guilty plea to lying to congress about guess contacts with russia. michael cohen told a federal judge he lied to avoid contradicting the president's "political messaging." he further admitted having kept trump family members in the loop all the while, and at this very hour lawyers for the president's former campaign chair, paul manafort, are in court in washington to set a date for sentencing. manafort effectively brought himself a longer sentence than he might have gotten by allegedly lying to the special counsel after he pledged to cooperate and tell the truth. and joining us from washington, fascinated by this for so many reasons. he's not going to be in court and that's a bit unusual in a criminal case like this, but we also may learn from prosecutors today exactly what they say m h
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lh -- manafort lied ak. right? >> reporter: right, poppy. set after a surprise announcement monday from the special counsel office said it was tearing up manafort's cooperation agreement because he lied to them and lied to fbi agents about several different topics. now, we don't know exactly what those are and are hoping we might get some insight into what these lies entail today, and what we'll listen to, but this was a turn of events. manafort was convicted of eight clowns, pled guilty. a cooperation deal. in meeting with mueller's team at least nine times, appeared he was cooperating now saying he lied malt toll times. manafort's attorney say they don't agree with the government's characterization, but one thing they both agree on, they want to move this to sentencing. like you said. manafort will not be there. waived his right to appear. last time we saw him in court he arrived way wheelchair, feet elevated and wrapped, hi attorneys intimated he had a medical condition, was, a result
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of his confinement. but manafort won't be there today, but we'll look to see what we can learn about what happened between manafort and the special counsel's office, and also get a sentencing date, poppy. >> okay. kara, thank you. i know you'll be on top of this. jump to buenos aires. the president is there for the g20. abby phillip our colleague is there and joins us as well. watching the pressers the president had all morning with other leaders. what is his mood on the ground right now? >> reporter: well, poppy, the president landed here late last night and according to our sources coming in to this g20 meeting or series of meetings, distracted. clear based on his comments two reporters as he was leaving the white house and again this morning before he even left his hotel for his first meeting of the day, the subject on his mind is this michael cohen plea deal. the president's former personal attorney pleading guilty to lying about something that
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directly implicates him and president trump has been defending himself in these tweets this morning saying that his business dealings during the campaign were known at the time even though as we know they were not known at the time. they only came to light after he was elected president. and president trump is once again calling this all a witch-hunt. according to our source the president's distraction because of all of this is because he is spooked by what is happening with michael cohen. again, this is the mueller investigation showing a little bit of their cards and showing something that is clearly very troubling to president trump. in the peentimeantime this hang a weekend of meetings, high-stakes meetings with foreign leaders. we know based on what the president said in the past he believes this mueller investigation makes him look weak on the world stage. timing could not be worse for president trump when it comes to all of this. again, as we walk through the next couple of days, it will be interesting to see if president trump takes an opportunity to
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comment more on the subject matter that has been on his mind for several days now. we know that he was notified earlier this week, or his attorneys notified wednesday night by the justice department. as he woke up on thursday morning, the president began tweeting about mueller and it's clear it was because something was coming down the pike that he was deeply concerned about. poppy? >> okay. thank you very much. again, a lot of this overshadowing a significant then we just saw. you just saw mexico, canada and the united states signing a new trade agreement that is significant. we'll keep following what's happening at the g20 but get to our legal analyst jeffrey toobin. you've been by my side and jim's side through all of this. only five days. a reminder what's happens on this front. special counsel accused paul manafort of lying. the revelation that manafort's lawyer was secretly briefing the president's lawyers while manafort was allegedly lying to
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the special counsel. a draft court filing claimed that the president's confidant roger stone tried to get ahold of those hacked democratic e-mails by wikileaks, and just yesterday the president's former fixer and personal attorney said he lied to congress about business contacts with russia during the campaign. how much -- >> gosh! >> wow. right? >> why don't we just knock off early, poppy? >> jim took the day off and i came. it's been a busy week. >> exactly. >> how much in all seriousness does this move the ball forward for the mueller probe? >> this is a very significant moment, because -- think about three areas of the mueller investigation. what donald trump's position is on each one. yesterday we learned more about the trump tower project. something he had said nothing about during the campaign, and his position is that he had absolutely -- essentiallying in to do with it during the six
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months when he was running in the republican primaries. that's his position. also, wikileaks. he, it's clear, was talking to roger stone throughout the campaign. roger stone and donald trump were both obsessed with wikileaks. but they both assert they didn't talk about wikileaks to each other. third, there's the issue of the trump tower meeting where donald trump jr. was meeting with this representative of the russian government saying, i love the idea of dirt on hillary clinton. yet his position and the position of his father is that they never discussed this meeting. when you combine those three implausible stories about trump tower and moscow, about wikileaks, about the meeting in trump tower in new york it adds up to a very improbable story the president is telling and i think it's a problem for him. >> timing, very suspect.
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timing, a huge question. where the direct line is, if there is one, that's the key question that remains. don junior, the president's son, provided testimony under oath to three congressional committees. they do their job in congress when it comes to asking important questions on this stuff. i think any reasonable person can assume he was asked about the trump tower moscow proposal. what does this mean for him now that michael cohen said that he was in talks with family members about this, and that it extended much further? i mean, is don junior likely in jeopardy? >> potential jeopardy. he says i was only vaguely involved. i wasn't involved in the negotiations. it's important to draw people's attention to one point about credibility. rudy giuliani, the president himself, they both said that michael cohen is lying, trying to save his own skin. when prosecutors look at
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someone's credibility, the key issue is not how they look, how they sound, what their motivation is. it's corroboration. so how can you prove through other witnesses or more importantly other documents or electronic records that they're telling the truth? what's so significant about michael cohen's guilty plea yesterday and his statements about trump tower-moscow, e-mails backed up what he was saying. the question about donald trump jr. will be are there e-mails that contradict what he told the senate intelligence committee? we know the president doesn't do e-mail, but the other people do, and their problem, even more than michael cohen's testimony, who is, of course, you know, suspect, because he has an ax to grind. what is the documentary evidence that donald trump jr. may have not told -- may have told untruths. that's the most important
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question. >> important point. now go take your weekend. jeffrey toobin, thank you. >> you have another 52 minutes to work. >> no. an hour and 52 minutes. a lot of time ahead. luckily -- thank you, jeff. joining me now, republican senator jeff flake of arizona serves on the senate judiciary and comoran relations committee. nice to meet you in person. every time we talk or see you, it's through a tv screen. thank you for being here, sir. >> glad to be here. >> talk about how the last 24 hours changed bipartisan legislationry senator cooms, protecting the independence of the special counsel, didn't even get brought to the floor this week. mcconnell called it a solution in search of a problem. do the events of the last 24 hours change that, and if so, meaning do you think it will make it to the floor, do you have the republican votes now to get it through? >> i think there are the republican votes. back up a little. this was passed by the judiciary committee in may. may 26th, by a vote of 14-7.
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four republicans voting for it including the chairman, chairman grassley. it's not often we get bipartisan, you know, legislation out of the judiciary committee but it came. that has sat in the judiciary -- sorry. on the floor now waiting for floor action for eight months now. and initially, the majority leader said, well, nobody's being fired. nothing to see here. don't worry about the mueller investigation. that changed, i argue changed before, but it really changed -- when the attorney general was fired. then -- you know, this additional information coming forward really points up the need to protect the special counsel. i do believe the votes are there on the floor, if we can just get a vote. what i'm calling for. let's just have a vote. >> not just calling for it. blocking other things. judges, get there in a moment. about the attorney general and now the acting attorney general matthew whitaker, he didn't stop what happened yesterday, and he has a lot of power over the
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mueller probe. doesn't what happened yesterday with michael cohen and mueller show at least for now whitaker has not stood in the way of this probe? >> i hope so. >> does it make you feel better about him? >> i sure hope this indicates that bob mueller can still act independently. truth is, we don't know. we don't know what conversations go on between bob mueller and now matt whitaker. if bob mueller gets everything he needs in terms of subpoenas and whatnot, when the report is ultimately issued, matt whitaker can decide what congress sees and what congress doesn't see. that's important. we think it ought to be handled by somebody who has at least been, you know, confirmed by the senate. >> it's very important. many of your republican colleagues, though, i was a bit surprised to see some reaction yesterday downplaying the importance of what we heard from michael cohen yesterday. senate majority whip john cornyn said all is speculation. lindsey graham said i don't know how that has anything to do with clud wig the russian s
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colluding with the russians. do you have a message to fellow republican senators? >> i don't know how we can be so sanguine what's going on. it's important to protect it. i agree with jeff toobin. what will really matter if there's e-mail, documentary evidence somebody lied to congress, or wasn't truthful before various subcommittees ob committ or committees. >> opposing all judicial nominees until a full vote on the floor is brought against protecting the special counsel. 21 judges did not come forward because of the stand you're taking. senator orrin hatch said not a smart move. ted cruz, not productive. huckabee, flake is a selfish narcissist who would stop one of the few things he could actually do for his country.
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confirm judges. his hate of the president succeeds his duty and it's unconstitutional and i won't finish the rest because it is personally insulting. what do you say about why you're taking this stand? >> we need to protect the special counsel. we've confirmed 50 judges since the president took office. we're doing that work and need to continue to dot that work, but this has to be priority now. >> number one, clearly, for you t. you. >> it is. a judge from arizona we passed over yesterday, but this has to be priority now, and you have to take a stand. and i have leverage, because we have a narrow majority on the judiciary committee, and so i'm using it. you use leverage to get votes to the floor that should be on the floor. >> you use them, but people often use them most when not running again. i will never forget your
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interview recently with "60 minutes" where you says i couldn't have done this, couldn't have reached across the aisle if i were running again. >> that's true. >> could you have done this with the judges if you were running again, senator? >> probably not. but the not -- it shouldn't be done. it's no that. i felt was important to do. you have to take a stand, and we've got to protect the special counsel. we don't want to the provoke a constitutional crisis. i think it's for the good of the country. i really do. >> talk about saudi arabia. obviously you sit on the foreign reses committee. senator lindsey graham said yesterday the cia agreed to brief him on the khashoggi tape. the director who heard it didn't come to the all-senators briefing this week. are you also going to get that briefing by the cia? are you requesting it? >> yes. we want that briefing. very disappointed haspel wasn't there when mike pompeo and mattis were there. she needed to be there.
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it's a cia investment that is most important. the ones with access to the intelligence. first ax to the intelligence. >> and the tape, no one in the room has heard the tape. >> right. >> the president, you know, recently called saudi arabia "a great ally." you responded saying, no uncertain terms, great allies don't plotthe murder of the journalists. you need 67 votes to override a potential presidential veto. is there that much republican support today for that measure? >> i think there will be. if the administration doesn't change their policy. if we continue to ignore what happened to khashoggi, then we will have the votes. you have to remember, when the russian sanctions were first brought up, the president said i will veto it. >> i do. and then it was a veto -- >> 98 votes. >> yes. i think we're going to reach that, but i think probably what will happen is the
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administration will actually change the policy. >> do you think they will? >> i do. i do. i think they have to. they don't want to face a congress that will defund or take other steps that will be even more draconian in the administration's view than change our policy in yemen. >> you think the trump administration will stop acting with saudi arabia on its own? >> i do, yes. >> before you go, can't avoid this question, especially in person here. in 2020 will we see a candidate flake? >> on record i have many times said i hope a republican runs in the primary against the president. i think republicans need to be reminded what it means to be conservative, and what it means to be decent. >> what are the chances that republican is you? >> i preserve it's somebody else. i'm not ruling it out. >> if it's not. >> not ruling it out but it's a long way from my mind right now. >> senator flake, nice to have you on important topics. thank you very much.
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enjoy the weekend. >> thank you. will do. >> thanks again. all right. just in, take a look at this. michael cohen, this is just moments ago leaving his apartment in new york one day after pleading gilgty. with all the news this week about him and paul manafort and the russia probe, what should be, who should, rather, be the first person democrats call on to talk to in, when they ta takeover on house committees? i will ask about that. and also will president trump run into president vladimir putin at the g20 summit? he canceled their meeting. and hacked? personal information from half a billion guests of marriott stolen. an update, next. when my hot water heater failed, she was pregnant, in-laws were coming, a little bit of water, it really- it rocked our world. i had no idea the amount of damage that water could do. we called usaa. and they greeted me as they always do. sergeant baker, how are you? they were on it.
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kingdom. according to reporting from our own jim sciutto, even with the day off today, saying putin not only approved the attack but had a say in the amount of nerve agent used. the attack sickened serge skripal and his daughter. remember that name well. the nerve agent was novacek hidden in a perfume bottle and eventually found by a british woman leading to her death. officials tell cnn enough novacek was smuggled in to kill thousands. and at the g20 in buenos aires, this morning we are anticipating some interaction perhaps between the russian president vladimir putin and president trump. of course, president trump canceled his formal sitdown with putin citing russia's aggression towards ukraine. likely they do bump into one another.
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good morning. official cancellation of the meeting with putin. what's likelihood, though, the two do cross paths today? >> reporter: seems extremely likely and this is, the kremlin wanted this meeting, they're playing down it isn't happening. we heard from the foreign ministry spokeswoman in moscow today saying it was merely a matter of u.s. domestic politics rather than what president trump has said because russia still has control of a couple of ukrainian vessels as well as some ukrainian sailors. so this, the interpretation that the russians are putting on this is that the issue being put up by the president's is not the real issue. therefore, they would like to get some face time with him. clearly, this is not going to be a replacement for a full sitdown, what the russians really wanted and clearly not giving the leaders enough time to get into the situation in ukraine, weapons, missile systems, controls. awful the sort of detailed
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issues that are a thorn between the two countries at the moment. clearly, the russians, though, will take something from the fact that this will not focus more attention on russia's nefarious activities in the u.s. presidential election of 2016. that for them would be a gain if there is one, in not having a proper sitdown meeting. >> look at the significance of jim sciutto's reporting on the skripal poisoni ining and the dt signoff of that. what we saw this morning, we saw the head -- saw president trump signing the nafta 2.0 if you will, with president trudeau and the mexican president there. the significance is large but they didn't get the concession they hoped for. mexico and canada still face tariffs on aluminum and steel and many thought they might not sign this, use this as leverage,
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but they did. >> yes. this was a good show and a good get for the u.s. side. another big thing that could come out of this, even though in the grand scheme, nothing final. signing an agreement or coming to agreement with china on trade. what that would likely look like would be an agreement to hash out a framework for talking about trade issues. coming up with a timeline to talk about this, these issues. laying out all the subjects that will be discussed. that's by not mean as resolution of all the trade issues similar to what we're seeing between the u.s., canada and mexico, were ut ut -- but it would be something. you would think the appetite would be big for trump to accomplish that. the chinese also want that. that's likely to be something else the u.s. can chock up to its side on this. what we are hearing, though, leading up to the g20 is that the u.s. has been incredibly
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tough on the language that will go into the g20 communique. this big group statement that always comes out of these big gatherings. the u.s. has been playing a really hard line and other g20 leaders are expecting national security adviser john bolton to essentially give them an ultimatum saying this is the language we want in this, and if we don't get it, then we are not going to be part of the g20 communique. >> some of that language is on trade. >> right. >> they don't want mention of free trade without fair trade. some of it is on climate change. they don't like references to the paris climate deal. >> right. >> so it's likely that if trump wants to be a part of this communique and not be isolated, he's going to have to accept some of the language that the u.s. just doesn't like. >> you remember what the president said of the g7 about being onboard with the communique and reneging on it when he got on to air force one. thank you both for being there. right now, paul manafort and
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while agreeing to cooperate with prosecutors. that was before special counsel said manafort lied to them following his guilty plea essentially blowing up the entire cooperation agreement. what were those lies? we may learn a lot about them today from prosecutors. democratic congressman eric swalwell of california is with me and sits on both house intel and judiciary committees. good morning. good to have you. >> good morning, poppy. glad to be back. >> you said about attorney general math chew whitaker who oversees the special counsel is an assassin hired by president trump to kill the mueller probe. didn't yesterday prove that's not true? at least not yet? >> i think it's the public light that was shined on this that has frozen whitaker, i hope. he said a couple weeks ago he would seek an ethics opinion ob we whether he should recuse himself. we should know the answer. tell us if he sought it and,
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two, if an opinion was dpl delivered. shown whitaker was placed in this role and prejudged the mueller investigation. i believe that's why he's been put there but am encouraged bob mueller continues to rack up indictments and hopefully we reach a natural conclusion. >> we don't have that vox yet and i want to let viewers know, it's just not cnn reporting. >> released a couple weeks ago. right. >> and let me read part of what the president wrote. "likely looked at doing a building somewhere in russia. put up zero money, zero guarantees. didn't do the project. so, mu so much ado about nothing? >> he said repeatedly over and over, no deals with russia. now shifted to lightly working. i've seen this in the trump team
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before, failure to disclose, deny and then try to manipulate what they were doing. i think the mueller indictment speaks much louder than the trump denials. >> were you aware at all before michael cohen surprisingly showed up in federal court in manhattan yesterday, congressman, that michael cohen had lied to your committee? >> yes. and we have been limited in what we can do with the pages of lies that sit beneath the u.s. capitol in the transcripts that are buried essentially and blocked from being public, because the republicans have failed to allow us to send those to bob mueller. a number of witnesses we believe were not truthful and asked to send that to bob mueller to investigate it. >> understood. mueller has the transcripts and that about it. >> no, he doesn't, poppy. this is confusing, because the senate conducted their own investigation. we've done ours. every single one of our
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transcripts have stayed within our committee. so the indictment yesterday was based on a senate transcript of michael cohen and a lower michael cohen publicly sent to the house, but our transcripts have not been released, and there are witnesses that we interviewed that the senate did not. roger stone, for example, was not interviewed by the senate. that is one that should be fast tracked to the mueller team. >> you say, yes, that, yes, you believe that michael cohen lied to your committee about more than just the trump tower-moscow proposal times and who was talked to. what else do you have evidence that he lied about? >> well, there's still a lot of questions about whether or not he traveled -- we know he traveled in july and october of 2016. we gave him an opportunity to provide documents to show he had only gone to london and italy as he said. he failed to deliver those documents. we asked republicans to subpoena those travel records for that
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time period they didn't allow us to do that. there is still a lot of questions whether he was acting at the direction of candidate trump and going overseas, meeting with foreign nationals seeking to meet with the president. >> you have questions, but no hard evidence he lied about other topics? just to be clear here. >> we also, as it relates to the june 9 meeting, we have strong evidence that trump and cohen talked almost daily about campaign stuff and so, again, when you take circumstantially what we know about that relationship and how close trump's office was to cohen's -- >> i understand what you think. just asking, do you have hard evidence michael cohen lied to your committee about anything else? hard evidence right now? >> circle evidence. treated the same in the law as direct evidence. >> finally, government needs to get funded pretty darn soon. are you willing to shut down the government if legislation to
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fund the government does not include protection for the special counsel? >> i would love to be in majority. right now the house is controlled by republicans and so is the senate. if they can get the votes among themselves, government will stay open. if they want democratic votes, i and others are saying we will negotiate as we always should, but that needs to include protecting bob mueller. shutting down the government -- >> you won't vote for any legislation to fund the government, if it doesn't include mueller protection. is that right? >> right. but the government is run by republicans right now. they have majority in both houses. only they can shut down their government. >> congressman, appreciate you being with me. have a nice weekend. >> my pleasure. you, too. a critical g20 underway and what is likely to be the most critical moment in the g20 summit. ahead, the president is sitting down with the chinese president xi jinping, trying to strike a trade agreement. will they be able to hash something out? more on that, next.
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a major threat from president trump on the heels of one of the most critical moments for the president so far at the g20 summit. in the middle of a trade war with china, the president is threatening to slap china with more than, well, more than $260 billion in additional tariffs and wouldn't rule out those hitting things as popular as iphones. ouch. this comes as president trump is set to meet with xi jinping on saturday. the two leaders looking to see if they can strike a trade deal. with me, cnn analyst and former trump economic adviser stephen moore and author of a new book "tromponomics." good morning. >> hi, poppy. >> china relation experts say not this president nixon's visit in 1972 has a meeting been so
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critical. of course, nixon called that the week that changed the world. is that how important this meeting is? >> well i think it's pretty critical. you nailed it. this is one of the most important opening negotiations with china we've had in probably 30 or 40 years. when i talked to my white house sources, poppy, what they're saying, they're not confident we're going to get a deal but may get a deal to get a deal. that would, i think, calm the financial markets. one of reasons we've seen a roller coaster ride on stocks you have been reporting at cnn the last several months a precisely because everybody has their eye on how the negotiations are going. i lap to think trump has a strong case. where in an abusive relationship with china. they do cheat and steal and we can't go on like that. we'll see if china makes concessions or not. >> thank you made a bunch.
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the president said a few sticking points and we won't budge until they budge on those. you said on november 16th, "we're in a cold war with china right now." it's clear how you feel about china at this point. what does president trump need to say to president xi? this weekend? >> by the way, that statement, that's the way donald trump views china right now. that we're in an adversarial position with china. that they have not acted like a friend, but more as an enemy of the united states in terms of a lot of their trade practices. trump, there's nothing more than donald trump would like to do than get this thing resolved in a way that helps the united states, and creates what he call as level playing field. one of the things i've heard from some of my white house sources who are going to be, who are over there now in argentina is they worry that china may on paper agree to things but it is sort of like the old soviet union. you have to have the reagan principle of trust but verify. they're worried that china will
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agree to things on paper and not follow through with it. this is still a very early stage in these important negotiations. >> right. let me ask you, before you go. >> yes. >> on human rights. the administration has said they will bring up human rights when the president meets with president xi this weekend. you have not only the human rights abuses against a million muslim eego oyeeg -- in the cou not allowed to leave until june. should be very important to the president. >> i agree. >> are you at all concerned as he has done with saudi arabia, president trump will be willing to place business interests of the united states in getting a trade deal with china ahead of all else? ahead of human rights issues? >> look, they're all important. no question. i can't speak for the president on those human rights
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negotiations, but you're exactly right. horrible human rights violations. they've moved in the wrong direction on human rights over the last ten years in beijing. in terms of the big economic picture, what i focus on, poppy, getting a deal with china. if we can get this done the american economy and the global economy will explode. the -- what's at stake here is really huge for the economy. not just for the next couple of years but potentially for decades. i would love to see an arrangement where both country agree to lower tariff it's, fs.e free trade is go for the world. i like what president trump has said the last couple years. i didn't start the trade war with china. they started it with us ten years ago when we finally have a president calling them out on it. >> yeah. sort of like kids in kindergarten. doesn't mat here started it. who's going to stop it? we'll see. stephen moore, thank you. >> thank you, poppy. the new york attorney general is investigating a huge
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data breach at marriott hotels. the chain says its guest reservation system was hacked potentially exposing personal information of, get this, half a billion people. >> if you stayed at a marriott property over the past four years realized it was happens september 8th. sometime in november realized an unauthorized party had gotten, copied, encrypted, tried to take out all of these information. these brands, stayed at any of those starwood brands what was supposed. they don't know how many dub du. 327 million at least lost their name, address, phone number, e-mail, gender, passport number, date of birth, arrival and departure information and then for some credit card numbers and
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expiration dates. those had some encryption on them, but marriott doesn't know yet if the encryption stuff was also exported and could have been breached. the security experts i'm talking to today are less concerned about the credit card numbers. you would see it on your credit card bill. they're worried about the other information. >> i'm worried about that other information. >> somebody could open unauthorized accounts in your name. seek a credit freeze at trans union, experian and equifax and gee to the starwood marriott website. they have things to help you monitor the web. this is a very, a very big unauthorized party. i don't know who it was yet. >> just one theory. >> one unauthorized party, really interesting. >> thank you, korappreciate it. a hearing today for james
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